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Old August 7th, 2012, 02:34 PM   #76
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They started to work on the area where the new well will be placed. Hopefully the teens that hang in the Hidden Trails park don't damage the new well, they ripped down the stakes and ribbon that blocked off the work area.
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Old October 3rd, 2012, 08:47 AM   #77
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UPDATE

The new well has been drilled and almost ready to start pumping much needed filtered water but it was inspected 3 times and failed inspection. The tested water is high in iron content. Now they are drilling a new well, hopefully deeper, I am not sure how deep this well was drilled no one is talking. I am not sure who is doing the well drilling. That seems to be the problem out in that area (iron) there are a few locals older drillers who will hit good drinkable water on the first try, but that comes at a high price.
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The water is horrible in that area; I lived about 5 miles south of Daytona North and the water has salt in it, and it is high in iron. I'm not aware of any good water to be had at any depth.
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Quote: Originally Posted by bobkorn View Post
The water is horrible in that area; I lived about 5 miles south of Daytona North and the water has salt in it, and it is high in iron. I'm not aware of any good water to be had at any depth.
The reason why that area where you used to live had saline water intrusion is because Ormond Beach had a bunch of wells in that area drawing the water quality down. They have wells in Flagler County, St John Water Management approved them but at the time the Flagler County Commisioners were never told, they found out from residents at a monthly meeting like a year later.

Ormond Beach had 12 active wells in the Hudson Wellfields , they are still using 10 wells right now.

Below is how deep they went to find good quality water.

Hudson Wellfields Flagler County

# Cast Depth GPM
17230 8" cast 89 feet 203

17231 6" cast 98 feet 138

17232 6" cast 98 feet 138

17233 6' cast 97 feet 73


They range in depth from 89 feet to 98 feet
They are pulling 1284 gallons of water a minute from the aquifer

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Quote: Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
The reason why that area where you used to live had saline water intrusion is because Ormond Beach had a bunch of wells in that area drawing the water quality down. They have wells in Flagler County, St John Water Management approved them but at the time the Flagler County Commisioners were never told, they found out from residents at a monthly meeting like a year later.

Ormond Beach had 12 active wells in the Hudson Wellfields , they are still using 10 wells right now.

Below is how deep they went to find good quality water.

Hudson Wellfields Flagler County

# Cast Depth GPM
17230 8" cast 89 feet 203

17231 6" cast 98 feet 138

17232 6" cast 98 feet 138

17233 6' cast 97 feet 73


They range is depth from 89 feet to 98 feet
They are pulling 1284 gallons of water a minute from the aquifer
That's interesting....any idea if there's a map of these wellfields we're talking about? I'd be interested in seeing exactly where they're located.
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Bobkorn finding a map online of well locations is hard now,the Hudson wellfield has 13 wells, 11 of these wells are in Flagler County, they start 1 mile in from the county line and are spaced about 1000 feet apart, they in the south east corner west of Rt1 pass the railroad tracks, their is a service road back there. They have a permit to take 2 million gallons of water a day from those wells. Below is a link . I will see if I can find at map at the Flagler Health Dept for you.


http://www.dep.state.fl.us/lands/ARC...07/ITEM_16.pdf

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The Wellfield starts 1 mile in, from the Volusia/Flagler Line

There are adequate supplies of water available for existing legal uses and reasonably anticipated
future needs of Flagler County in the immediate vicinity of the Ormond Beach wellfields,
including the Hudson wellfield which lies within Flagler and Volusia counties, based upon
supporting modeling efforts and ongoing water quality monitoring. As noted in sections
addressing ground water, surface water, wetland, and existing user impacts, the potential for harm
to the environment and existing users from this withdrawal is negligible in Volusia and Flagler
counties.
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Flagler County has been identified as a priority water resource caution area in the draft 2003
Water Supply Assessment, due to concerns over projected impacts to established minimum flows
and levels, wetlands, and lakes from increased withdrawals in the northeast and east central
portions ofthe County. It should be noted that the Hudson wellfield is located in the southeast
comer of Flagler County, a portion of the county where ground water withdrawals are minimal
and adverse impacts are not anticipated. The eleven Hudson wells within Flagler County are one mile of the Volusia/Flagler county line. Ormond Beach's contribution to the
cumulative increased ground water use over the proposed permit duration of20-years has been
evaluated and is not anticipated to cause adverse impacts in this area of Flagler County at this
time. However, this evaluation will recur on 5-year intervals to ensure that impacts will not occur
as recorrimendedin Other Condition 28. In the event that unacceptable impacts are anticipated at
one of these future evaluations, then appropriate avoidance measures must be put in place or the
allocation(s) must be reduced accordingly to avoid the impacts.
(f) Consultations with local governments affected by the proposed transport and use.
Ormond Beach has been operating under the Hunter's Ridge DRI development order that
provides for deeded easements for production wells in exchange for public water service to
Hunter's Ridge by Ormond Beach, Flagler County is interested in providing water service to
residents within Flagler County. Ormond Beach and Flagler County are currently negotiating an
inter-local agreement to address water use in Hunter's Ridge. Although no consensus has yet been
reached between the parties, negotiations are ongoing. Flagler County has requested in writing
that this application for water use not be issued until an inter-local agreement addressing potable
water service in Flagler County is signed between Flagler County and Ormond Beach. Flagler
County has recently indicated that absent an interlocal agreement, Flagler County, through the
developer ofthe Hunter's Ridge DRI, will construct onsite facilities to provide potable water
service, per the Development Order for the DRI. In response to this information, District staff
recommends that the permit be conditioned so that in the event that the water plant is constructed
and a consumptive use permit is obtained, then the Ormond Beach allocation for the Flagler
County portion of Hunter's Ridge will be removed.
(g) The value of the existing capital investment in water related infrastructure made by the
applicant ~-
The thirteen wells within the Hudson wellfield were installed in 1987 and have been supplying
water since the late 1980's. As noted above, the eleven Hudson wells located within Flagler
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The well at Hidden Trails was put in service on December 20.

http://www.flaglercounty.org/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=361
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The reason why that area where you used to live had saline water intrusion is because Ormond Beach had a bunch of wells in that area drawing the water quality down. They have wells in Flagler County, St John Water Management approved them but at the time the Flagler County Commisioners were never told, they found out from residents at a monthly meeting like a year later.

Ormond Beach had 12 active wells in the Hudson Wellfields , they are still using 10 wells right now.
Am I understanding this point right??? Ormond Beach has water wells in FLAGLER County and it was not known about by the County?? Also do we the County get paid for the water that another County/City is taking from our lands??? I would guess not if itwas not known about. Should we not be getting $$$$ from Ormond Beach/Volusia??
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Am I understanding this point right??? Ormond Beach has water wells in FLAGLER County and it was not known about by the County?? Also do we the County get paid for the water that another County/City is taking from our lands??? I would guess not if itwas not known about. Should we not be getting $$$$ from Ormond Beach/Voulusia??
Yes that is correct, I was at the County council meeting when this issue was brought to the councils attention. As far as I know, I don't believe Ormond Beach pays for this water. I don't even think we even receive free water. It was easy for Ormond Beach to pull this off, at the time the only way to access this area were dirt roads off of CR 40 in Volusia County.

Maybe Ormond Beach should be required to supply free water to Daytona North residents since they are making millions of dollar a month selling this water?

Permits for wells and sewers are handled through the health department which is controlled by the state.
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Some people don't like the taste of the water from the new well.

Water flowing from the new well Flagler County built at the Hidden Trails Community Center in Daytona North is "good water," despite a detectable taste of chlorine, a county spokesman said.

"Because the well is a public water system, state health laws require that chlorine be added to the water," said county spokesman Carl Laundrie.

Daytona North resident Pam Anderson gave county commissioners an earful about the water during Monday night's County Commission meeting.

"That water is worse than what comes out of my well," she said. "It stinks. It's horrible. (The well) was a total waste of money."

District 4 Commissioner Nate McLaughlin championed the project after he was made aware in August 2011 that some residents in the mostly rural area didn't have access to potable water.

The work to build the well began a year later, after McLaughlin pulled together benefactors to donate the needed $61,000 in cash and in-kind labor to see the project through. The work was completed and water made available to residents on Dec. 20.

The system is designed to inject chlorine as water is drawn. Water that is treated by a city plant is also chlorinated, Laundrie explained Wednesday, but because it typically travels through a pipeline it doesn't smell or taste like chlorine by the time it comes out of the faucet.

The Environmental Protection Agency requires treated tap water to have a detectable level of chlorine to help prevent contamination, according to the Water Quality Health Council. The allowable chlorine level in drinking water, which is up to 4 parts per million, poses "no known or expected health risk (including) an adequate margin of safety," its website states.


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http://www.news-journalonline.com/ar...1040?p=1&tc=pg
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I have a water treatment system that puts LOTS of chlorine in the water and then it sits in two 250 gallon tanks. This removes the smell. It then goes through a charcoal canister, which removes ALL the chlorine, then it goes through a softener. Instead of complaining about their FREE water, get a pour through charcoal filter device, assuming they make such a thing (Brita, maybe) and enjoy chlorine free water. It's got to be better than what comes right out of the ground out there. I know; I lived five miles south of Daytona North for a couple of years and that water was non-drinkable even after treatment.
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I can't believe this service is available to us for free out this way. WOW!! It's absolutely amazing.

We filled up our water jugs and we did notice the chlorine smell as well as the mineral-sort of taste. Salt? I don't know. BUT...when you put it in a water cooler, much of the smell dissipates. It's very palatable water, but it's definitely not like bottled water you buy at the store.

I still think it's an amazing and incredible resource. If you have no palatable water, than that well is an invaluable resource. We will probably continue to buy water, but supplement with that well.

We have a water filter, but the water at the well is much better than our tap water.

I'm personally beside myself with what is there.

I grew up out this way, and I was here before the Country store, and I was here before our first road was paved: and it was only paved one mile.

Now, there's an incredibly useful fitness park with a nice playground for kids, a water well, and many of the roads are paved.

I think we're up and coming out this way. Many thanks to the people who've made these things happen!
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